CancerManXIII wrote:I'm down and ready to roll with this.
The journey begins.
So I have a few things on my wishlist and all brainstorming at first but here it goes for a start:

1. Resolution
I think the Native resolution should be 720p like the original Legacy but upscale to 1440p instead of 1080p because 720p x 2 is 1440p and this will mean better quality overall.
Also 1440p mode when run in 2160p looks really clean and correct in openGL mode because it is only a 35% upscale.
It makes little difference but @shadic tell me your thoughts.
My PC is using RTX4080 card so i have alot of  Memory to run it no problem.

I agree with your statement and it sounds good to me so we will go with your idea but I would love to get a compatible version of this screen pack to my OLED Steam Deck since I like to play on the go. Here are the specs for the OLED Steam Deck:
APU
6 nm AMD APU
CPU: Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32)
GPU: 8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.6GHz (1.6 TFlops FP32)
APU power: 4-15W
RAM
16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM (6400 MT/s quad 32-bit channels)
Display
Resolution
1280 x 800 x RGB
Type
HDR OLED
Display size
7.4” diagonal
Maximum Brightness
1,000 nits peak brightness (HDR)
600 nits (SDR)
Contrast ratio
> 1,000,000 : 1
Color gamut
110% P3
Refresh rate
up to 90Hz
Response time
<0.1 ms
Touch enabled
High performance touch.
I could also make a separate commission for it since this screen pack will be for good laptops and PC's


2. Logo
I want a custom logo design for this like the usual crazy ones you guys do.
I am open to designs but I want something 100% original that represents the Legacy screen pack and also pays tribute to the original with the colors and stuff.
It would be used in the game and on the menu and have a waiting screen mode too.
@shadic tell me your opinion on this

I will go with your suggestion regarding the logo and whatnot so I agree with you on this part.

3.Original Training Stage
I would like it to have an original training stage in a legacy color style or some kind of futuristic theme that is clean and not too busy, but also kind of mid tier flashy with some depth and nice effects that give it a trainign wide open area vibe.
The stage can be either 854x480 or 1280x720 resolution with lots of zoom and high jump for combo training

I am all aboard with the training stage Idea

4. Main menu screen
I am open on this. It should look cool though and futuristic and clean.
@shadic have you got examples on what kind of main menu screen you like?

Hmm this one is a tough one I am fine with whatever as long as it follows the theme or it could be similar to the legacy main menu but with its own identity.

5. Portraits
I am open on this and I will go with shadic12s decisions as long as there are templates.

I am not picky with the portraits as well as long as it's easy to make.

6.Select screen
I think the Legacy slot count you mentioned of 200-300 sounds ok.
But you will need a really strong graphics card i think to run a mugen with all the effects we are adding at that high character number

We could do a 204-character slot similar to how Legacy Normal was but there are going to be a lot of OHMSBY-style characters so we would probably need more slots. One advantage that Ikemen Go has over Mugen is that you can add multiple characters in one slot.

Thats all i can think of for now.
I will add more later after shadic12s feedback

Also, i have no major idea of deadline on this because I know these take a long time.
I would suggest maybe we stagger it into smaller parts and build one at a time ya know.

Phant0mD wrote:oooh this sounds spicy!

I haven't read this in complete detail but I just skimmed it and sounds epic!

I would just offer you guys one hot tip/idea for when building this, since its quite a huge undertaking to do the whole 9 yards of a screenpack of this swag and my advice is you would wanna split this up into sub-commissions for each part of the mugen system.def/.sff, so you build it piece by piece rather than all at once, if that makes sense? so atleast y'all will have a piece to play with and not a long wait inbetween bits.
Thats one mistake I made with my projects trying to build it all at once and not disperse it in parts, but the end result is all the same i guess! keep it up guys! I will be watching this closely  

chris wrote:Is this project finally about to begin? I need to keep an eye on it

Constantinius3rd wrote:This is an exquisite sounding project guys!

Me and Metal SK can assist you guys with the stage component when you guys get around to it, I've worked with Cancerman before on some stage edits so glad to help on this if needed!
I'm working on a beatmania SP at the moment which will be finished in a few weeks so let me know!

Shadic12 wrote:

chris wrote:Is this project finally about to begin? I need to keep an eye on it

Yes this project is going to begin but right now its still up for grabs of who is going to do the commission itself

Constantinius3rd wrote:This is an exquisite sounding project guys!

Me and Metal SK can assist you guys with the stage component when you guys get around to it, I've worked with Cancerman before on some stage edits so glad to help on this if needed!
I'm working on a beatmania SP at the moment which will be finished in a few weeks so let me know!

chris wrote:

Shadic12 wrote:

chris wrote:Is this project finally about to begin? I need to keep an eye on it

Yes this project is going to begin but right now it's still up for grabs who is going to do the commission itself

ok, I also want to join this project, and I can share a portion of the funding

Shadic12 wrote:

chris wrote:

Shadic12 wrote:

chris wrote:Is this project finally about to begin? I need to keep an eye on it

Yes this project is going to begin but right now it's still up for grabs who is going to do the commission itself

ok, I also want to join this project, and I can share a portion of the funding

Sure, you can join when it comes to the funding, but when it comes to final decisions regarding suggestions and ideas, CancerMan and I have the final say since we are the project managers of this screen pack.

Ex-Sirius wrote:Hi guys

Sorry for the late response to this topic.
I do remember a year ago there was the discussion about this project and I am excited to see it is all finally coming together as far as being put into motion.
I would be more than happy to work on the screenpack portions of this project.
I am currently finishing 2 other commissions for 2 clients at present but those should be finished in about 2 weeks time.
I will read through what you have all discussed so far and then I will add my input and ask any questions if needed.

Shadic12 wrote:

Ex-Sirius wrote:Hi guys

Sorry for the late response to this topic.
I do remember a year ago there was the discussion about this project and I am excited to see it is all finally coming together as far as being put into motion.
I would be more than happy to work on the screenpack portions of this project.
I am currently finishing 2 other commissions for 2 clients at present but those should be finished in about 2 weeks time.
I will read through what you have all discussed so far and then I will add my input and ask any questions if needed.

Yo Ex-Sirus I would love to have you on board with this commission since you did a wonderful job of the Legacy Tag battle lifebars you completed  some time ago even though it had to undergo several modifications

Ex-Sirius wrote:
RE: Authorizing/Confirming screenpack design requirements

I understand there a several people potentially involved in this project.
As far as the final decision making over design elements etc, who will be the authority on confirming each design element?
Will it be:

A. Shadic12
B.CancerManXIII
C. Both of you will co-sign each element ( meaning 2 votes are required for every design element/project component)
D. In the event that both of you have a separate/alternate requirement for any particular element, you will both sign off your individual parts and they will both be included as optional alternatives within the screenpack

Ex-Sirius wrote:

RE: Logo Design

Which of the following is correct:

A. This Screenpack will have an original Logo/Title design and this will be incorporated into the main screenpack menus/design
B. This screenpack will have an original logo/Titile Design but it will not be incorporated into the main screenpack menus/design

CancerManXIII wrote:Hey Bro!
Looking forward to working with you on this bad boy!
In response:

Ex-Sirius wrote:
RE: Authorizing/Confirming screenpack design requirements

I understand there a several people potentially involved in this project.
As far as the final decision making over design elements etc, who will be the authority on confirming each design element?
Will it be:

A. Shadic12
B.CancerManXIII
C. Both of you will co-sign each element ( meaning 2 votes are required for every design element/project component)
D. In the event that both of you have a separate/alternate requirement for any particular element, you will both sign off your individual parts and they will both be included as optional alternatives within the screenpack

So this is actually a good point because we have not discussed the Budget cap on this.
There is a possibility we may have individual requirements on only a very few things, in which case they can be will both become parts of the job and will increase the number of hours.
For example, I am pretty relaxed about the overall screenpack parts, and I am most likely going to greenlight 99.9% of whatever [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] decides
but as a personal preference I definitely do want a very OP logo for this game to make it seem like a true arcade classic.
And because I also want a legacy themed Training stage, I know those 2 parts alone wont be cheap since they are 2 jobs in their own, but they will be part of this project.
As a whole, me and Shadic12 are halving all the costs, in which case it is only fair that we both should have to sign off and agree on any final project components, so in that case I would say "C", except we will negotiate anything first so we don't have to deviate off course too much.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] lmk your thoughts on this bro

I have no issues with what you suggested for this and I am aboard with your ideas and suggestions.

Ex-Sirius wrote:

RE: Logo Design

Which of the following is correct:

A. This Screenpack will have an original Logo/Title design and this will be incorporated into the main screenpack menus/design
B. This screenpack will have an original logo/Titile Design but it will not be incorporated into the main screenpack menus/design

In my opinion Most definitely "A".
The Logo may be reused in the main menu screen after the title screen and in loading screens between fights, or during the credits screen or possibly other parts of the screenpack i cant think of right now. so yeah, it will be a multipurpse logo design needed.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] your thoughts?

Ex-Sirius wrote:Thank you for confirming these details.
Based on your responses, this confirms that:


Logo details summary:
A. This Screenpack will have an original Logo/Title design and this will be incorporated into the main screenpack menus/design

Final Decisions Summary
C. Both of you will co-sign each element ( meaning 2 votes are required for every design element/project component)


Regarding the Logo design, I am happy for you @phantomD to mange this initial part of the project as this is more your area of expertise.
I would imagine we will follow the same process as what we did with the designs for Battle Opera toshin sp project with the logo files, and similar to the capcom x square and Astral Heat system which means I will require supplied to me the following upon completion of your portion:

1. Layered Logo PSD in 16bit
1a. All exported brush/style swatches
1b. Asociated color pals for PS plugins
1c. add exports/.sff pre import data for each logo component
1d. any unformatted custom fonts asociated
1e. Anim timings for any anim seq (ill dm you regarding this but I assume you know what i refer to)
2. SVG, .AI, Vector output files in RAW format.
3. Associated AE files and folder layer (if/where anims are applied)

In summary, The logo portion of the project will need to be completed before I can proceed with the screenpack portion as I will need the assets from that to reuse in the actual SP portion.
This will also significantly reduce additional time and cost on the overall project.

I will not discuss anything further regarding this as I will leave this info with you at let you liaise with PhantomD regarding this and also let me know if you are doing the stage portion after the logo or after the screenpack.

I am all in when it comes to PhantomD doing the logo for this sp as for the stage portion I will leave the decision to CancerMan

Phant0mD wrote:just let me know what you need boys and we can start planning this bad boy!

CancerManXIII wrote:I'm going to need some help on this guys, and lots of ideas.
Also I think [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to decide a logo we need to decide a name for the game aswell